Monday, August 18, 2008

THE PURPOSE DRIVEN LIE?

As reported all across the blogosphere, when Rick Warren from the Saddle back Church asked John McCain about the "cone of silence," it was a lie, pure and simple. And McCain went right along and supporting the lie (typical). The fact is the McCain motorcade was racing along to the church (if you can believe that), and not sequestered where he could not hear the questions as we were led to believe. Wireless Internet connection logged onto CNN anyone? No wonder everyone said he was so "well prepared" ("yes, yes, and help the poorer teachers to find a new job" how astute....).
I am so sick of the religious right and the so called righteous party (GOP) I could puke. Projectile vomiting aimed at Karl Rove and any other smug, self righteous lying conservative hiding behind his "faith" I can find. Oh, there are plenty of devout followers in the GOP, its just that none of them are running for anything, just running to cast their votes for the next pro-life sinner to come along.

5 comments:

Mark said...

It's always the same.... praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
Sadly look what this given us. 80% believe United States is on the wrong track. Senator from Arizona....we knew Reagan we may not always have agreed with the man but when it comes to honesty alone...John is no Reagan .....not even close.

Papa Giorgio said...

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Mark, be careful with 80% stat. I am not happy with the way the country going, but I am still going to vote for McCain. For instance, the latest Reuters/Zogby poll has McCain up by 5 points... which really means nothing until after both conventions. The President also has a 33% approval rating (Gallop) and congress (democrat led) has a 19% approval rating (AP/Ipsos).

Kimba, both the candidates were given the questions before-hand. So if Obama didn't do well, that isn't the conservative religious person's fault. Remember, you are making an argument from silence and then extending that argument onto a whole swath of people. That shows more of a fear/psychosis on your part than any fault of religious people.

Being a sinner, bt-the-by, is a prerequisite to being a Christain. This is one of the base core values that differ between the Left and the Right based in the philosophy Rousseau (modern liberalism) and the philosophy of Locke (modern conservatism).

http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2008/01/re-post-is-church-full-of-hypocrites.html

Papa Giorgio said...

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“I have received your new book against the human race, and I thank you for it. Never was such cleverness used in the design of making us all stupid. One longs, in reading your book, to walk on all fours. But as I have lost that habit more than sixty years ago, I feel unhappily the impossibility of resuming it.”

~ Voltaire on Rousseau’s Social Contract

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Kim said...

Actually, Rick Warren said he gave each the first three questions so they could be comfortable from the start.
And while my inital emotions may have resulted in my coming on too strong, I find the disengenuousness of every candidate who reports to being religious as a pre-requisite to the position sickening.
John McCain's story of the guard who drew a cross in front of him on Christmas day while in captivity was a Clintonesque lie, which I believe was first told by Solzenitzen (sorry, just came home and too tired to look up the correct spelling....a direct result of my watching the Olympics until midnight (an extreme mancrush on Shawn Johnson) then getting up at three and going to work filling in for my nightman at work.
I realize that no one is perfect, and although sin is not really a requirement for being a christian, the knowledge of sin and forgiveness / humility is.
I thought Obama, for all of his faults, was more comfortable with his faith, and is very knowledgeable of scripture. I'm just having a difficult time hearing McCain's claims of spirituality when we both know that he has a horrible temper, so much so he has sworn on the senate floor and called his lovely wife Cindy, a "cunt."
To paraphrase someone during the primaries, ask McCain anything, and he will say three things, a noun, a verb, and I was captured in Vietnam.

Papa Giorgio said...

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Do you really believe that there is only one guard and one prisoner who are both Christians? Is not sans or dirt all over the world as well? If McCain took that from Solzhenitsyn, the Solzhenitsyn took it from 1st century Jews who had become Messianic-Jews and drew fish in the dirt to quietly (secretly) announce their faith to a solitude (hopefully) fellow believer. Christians have been doing this for 1,900 years.

As to his Navy mouth, it is just that, a Navy mouth. His grandfather and father had it, so does he. I am one of the most "evangelical" guys you'll meet. Get me together with my buddies over a few beers, a similar mouth creeps in. (I watched both specials on the candidates on FOX, pretty good.)

As to comfortable faith... Obama is very comfortable with his black nationalist liberation theology, I will agree. Doing the least of these things and feeding the poor quotes from Jesus are on the premise that the doing and feeding are voluntary, not forced... which is where Obama diverges from orthodoxy and into forcing the government to accept a social gospel. I have yet to hear McCain gaffe like Dean when asked what his favorite book in the New Testament responding Job.

There are no atheists in fox-holes Kimba.

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